travelsoul Full Member Posts: 432 Jun 26, 2014 12:26:38 GMT | Mail service by travelsoul on Feb 19, 2015 21:45:25 GMT In my neighborhood? I'one thousand getting nowhere when trying to contact my county or the Sheriff department. Several months agone a house sold across the street. It's a small firm, but over 1,000 sq ft, but zoned and permitted to build a second house in the back. As soon equally information technology was purchased, construction begun on the dorsum firm but information technology is still not complete. During construction a foreign group of people moved in. They don't announced to exist a family because of the ages, ethnicities, and type of people they are. There also seems to exist style too many adults to be living in such a small house. The people look very crude around the edges and sit down outside smoking all twenty-four hour period and night. The business firm is slowly starting to look like a dump with cigarette butts, trash, and soda cans in the planters and down the driveway. In that location are not whatsoever cars which is also strange. My neighbors and I are suspicious. I've spent today trying to find out if it is a halfway house and if it'south opperating legally. Honestly, I'd rather not accept it in my neighborhood but I understand the need for information technology. I call up that if it is legally run, we, every bit in the neighborhood, should accept been notified that information technology opened. Does anyone have any any cognition of this? I'm sure laws vary by country and county but I thought who ameliorate to ask then you ladies | |
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| Mail by SnowWhite on Feb 19, 2015 21:54:59 GMT It may not be an official halfway house, but if your boondocks regulations don't take whatsoever restrictions on the number of people/number of not-related people in a dwelling, I don't come across how they're breaking any laws. | |
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Kerri West Pearl Clutcher Posts: three,598 Location: Kentucky Jun 25, 2014 20:31:44 GMT | Post past Kerri Westward on February 19, 2015 22:02:16 GMT I concur with smartypants71. When I need to find owner information on a belongings I look at PVA records to detect the owner then run the owners proper name through a search on the Secretarial assistant of Country website to encounter if there are any businesses tied to that name. Sometimes I go lucky and with the owners name and name of the business, I become a good showtime on sleuthing. | |
momstime RefuPea Fixture You get what you repeatedly practise. Posts: 704 Jun 27, 2014 3:03:46 GMT | Mail past momstime on Feb 19, 2015 22:21:32 GMT I am betting NOT a halfway firm. Sounds more similar people associated with the builders | |
momof3pits UnstopPeable Crazy Dog Mama Posts: 1,161 Jun 25, 2014 23:12:26 GMT | Postal service by momof3pits on February 19, 2015 22:23:10 GMT Why do yous need to know? Are they messing with you, your family, or your home personally? | |
travelsoul Total Member Posts: 432 Jun 26, 2014 12:26:38 GMT | Post by travelsoul on Feb 19, 2015 23:02:04 GMT Thanks for your suggestions. I don't live in a neighborhood with an clan. I'thousand fairly sure it's non squatters or friends of the builders. Why practise you need to know? Are they messing with you, your family, or your abode personally? To outset with, I'd like to know who my neighbors are. I'd like to know if I should take extra precautions if there is a house total of possible drug addicts, mentally ill, or criminals living beyond the street. If they didn't sit exterior and smoke all solar day and dark and throw their cigarette butts and trash everywhere I probably wouldn't even have noticed. Like I said, while I'grand not thrilled if information technology is, I too understand the demand for transition homes and experience my neighbors and I should be informed if information technology is. | |
Deleted Posts: 0 Apr four, 2022 9:10:fourteen GMT | Post by Deleted on February 19, 2015 23:05:05 GMT Why do yous need to know? Are they messing with you, your family, or your home personally? I agree. Honestly legally you have no right to know that I've heard of. Nosotros have one in our neighborhood and haven't had any issues ever. Nothing we can practise they legally have the correct to be in that location. | |
The Birdhouse Lady Drama Llama Moose. It's what's for dinner. Posts: six,419 Location: Alaska -The Final Frontier Jun xxx, 2014 17:15:19 GMT | Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Feb 19, 2015 23:26:45 GMT If she feels unsettled and concerned near her safety I think she has every right to know. Simply similar we have the right to know if there are any sex offenders living in our neighborhoods. She has the right to feel rubber in her own dwelling house. | |
Deleted Posts: 0 Apr 4, 2022 9:10:fourteen GMT | Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 23:28:58 GMT If she feels unsettled and concerned about her safety I think she has every right to know. Simply similar we have the right to know if at that place are any sexual activity offenders living in our neighborhoods. She has the right to experience safe in her own home. If at that place are no laws she doesn't have a right though. That's all I mean. I plant out because I asked them. They had no legal right to notify neighbors though. | |
| Post past bc2ca on Feb 19, 2015 23:51:15 GMT I would start with your city as I believe a halfway firm or group abode would demand a license from the city and/or state. It sounds more like a boarding house to me though. Nosotros've had a problem with them in our metropolis and a few years agone an ordinance was passed restricting occupancy for a single family residence to 6 adults (with exemptions for licensed gorup homes). | |
eebud UnstopPeable Doxie Pea Mom Posts: two,299 Jun 25, 2014 21:fifty:xxx GMT | Post by eebud on Feb 19, 2015 23:57:39 GMT I would be surprised if it was a halfway firm. Typically in a halfway house, there are house "parents" (sorry, can't think of a better word) that supervises the residents. I don't think they would let them to sit outside smoking and throwing their butts and trash everywhere. Are these people working on the firm being built behind this one? Maybe the owner is letting workers stay at that place in exchange for lower wages. | |
| Mail past marmargirl on Feb twenty, 2015 0:x:28 GMT We moved to our current house 10 years agone and it was several months before we realized the house 2 doors downwards was a sober-living house. It was a firm for men and in some cases, their children. It was a bit surprising at first but I have to say they were great (and helpful) neighbors. They did sit out on their porch and smoke cigarettes quite a bit but the yard and business firm were always kept nicely. In November of 2013, the house caught burn down (due to an improperly extinguished cigarette) and when the business firm was re-built the owners decided to sell rather than keep the contract with the sober-living house. I actually miss those guys! | |
travelsoul Full Member Posts: 432 Jun 26, 2014 12:26:38 GMT | Postal service past travelsoul on Feb 20, 2015 0:12:59 GMT No, they are non working there. It appears that whoever is doing the construction is doing it as a side task because they only work on the weekends and they worked on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Only that's neither here nor there. I did finally find a certificate through the county that outlines the rules for obtaining a permit to run a sober living home. There is a section called "Skillful Neighbor Policy" ARTICLE 1: POLICY Expert Neighbor Policy 1.effective services for residents with substance abuse issues. Neighborhood support of an alcohol or drug recovery facility enhances the facility's ability to meet this goal. ii To increase the likelihood that the residents of the facility are able to be integrated into the community with an improved quality of life, it is required that each facility shall adopt a good neighbor policy like to the i enumerated here. 3. A skillful neighbour policy must include, simply would not necessarily be limited to, the policies outlined in Sections 204-206 of the Certification Guidelines. Section 203 Reserved Commodity ii: POLICY CONTENTS Section 204 Neighborhood Complaints You are in a better position if you have the first opportunity to respond to concerns. Each facility shall ensure that the neighboring residents are advised about whom to contact at the facility if they have complaints or questions, and how to get in contact with that person. Each facility shall develop a written protocol of procedures for staff to follow when a complaint is received. Peradventure I should just knock on the door and ask them? My hubby would be and then mad if I did that! I remember I'll permit my other neighbor continue his investigation of this. | |
elaine Eternal Pea Anti-Semitism is expressed in both blatant and subtle ways Posts: 24,404 Location: Northern Virginia Jun 25, 2014 20:33:00 GMT | Postal service by elaine on Feb 20, 2015 0:16:58 GMT In my neighborhood? I'g getting nowhere when trying to contact my county or the Sheriff section. Several months agone a house sold beyond the street. It'southward a modest house, just over i,000 sq ft, but zoned and permitted to build a 2nd house in the back. Equally soon as it was purchased, construction begun on the back house but it is still not complete. During construction a strange group of people moved in. They don't appear to be a family because of the ages, ethnicities, and type of people they are. In that location also seems to be way too many adults to be living in such a modest house. The people look very rough effectually the edges and sit outside smoking all day and night. The house is slowly starting to await like a dump with cigarette butts, trash, and soda cans in the planters and down the driveway. There are not whatsoever cars which is besides foreign. My neighbors and I are suspicious. I've spent today trying to observe out if it is a halfway house and if it's opperating legally. Honestly, I'd rather not have it in my neighborhood but I understand the need for it. I recall that if it is legally run, we, as in the neighborhood, should have been notified that it opened. Does anyone have any any knowledge of this? I'm certain laws vary by country and county but I thought who meliorate to ask then yous ladies If it were a halfway house there would be people staffing it who would own cars, unless y'all are directly on a bus route. It certainly doesn't sound appetizing to take that beyond the street, but I dubiety information technology is a halfway house. Do you have city ordinances for trash in the yard, etc? That might be a more fruitful route to accept. | |
freecharlie Pea God freecharlie What happens in NSBR, stays in NSBR PeaNut 109,127 September 2003 Posts: 22,066 Layout Posts: 27,874 Site Supporter Jun 25, 2014 20:10:18 GMT | Mail by freecharlie on Feb 20, 2015 0:25:xi GMT In the urban center I grew upwardly in, in that location is a law about how many non related adults could live in a house. Cheque your towns ordinances and so contact them if they are breaking the law | |
travelsoul Full Member Posts: 432 Jun 26, 2014 12:26:38 GMT | Post by travelsoul on Feb 20, 2015 0:25:39 GMT Well in that location is a car, only with several adults living in that location, it'southward odd that there are not more cars. I alive in an unicoorporated area of a county not a urban center. It's not regularly patrolled considering nosotros don't have urban center law. It'south sherriff jurisdiction. Information technology's likewise easier to become away with things like building without proper allow because there are no city ordinances and the county tends to look the other manner. | |
travelsoul Full Member Posts: 432 Jun 26, 2014 12:26:38 GMT | Post by travelsoul on Feb 20, 2015 0:28:59 GMT In the city I grew up in, at that place is a law about how many non related adults could live in a firm. Check your towns ordinances and then contact them if they are breaking the law Thank y'all. That's what I'm going to look into side by side. | |
| Post past *Scrapper*Stamper* on Feb xx, 2015 0:30:17 GMT Thanks for your suggestions. I don't live in a neighborhood with an association. I'm fairly certain it'south not squatters or friends of the builders. Why do you need to know? Are they messing with you, your family, or your habitation personally? To start with, I'd like to know who my neighbors are. I'd like to know if I should take extra precautions if at that place is a business firm full of possible drug addicts, mentally ill, or criminals living beyond the street. If they didn't sit exterior and smoke all 24-hour interval and night and throw their cigarette butts and trash everywhere I probably wouldn't fifty-fifty take noticed. Similar I said, while I'g not thrilled if it is, I also understand the demand for transition homes and feel my neighbors and I should be informed if it is. | |
Sassenach RefuPea Fixture Posts: 837 Jul twenty, 2014 three:52:54 GMT | Mail past Sassenach on Feb xx, 2015 0:34:55 GMT Why do you need to know? Are they messing with you lot, your family, or your dwelling house personally? I think she gave some really good reasons in her OP. I know if I were in her situation I would desire to know. There is nothing wrong with being observant and checking out what is going on. We are always told to "listen to our instincts". Information technology's the smart thing to do if something doesn't expect or feel right. | |
| Post past *Scrapper*Stamper* on Feb xx, 2015 0:44:09 GMT Thanks for your suggestions. I don't live in a neighborhood with an association. I'm fairly certain it'southward non squatters or friends of the builders. Why do you need to know? Are they messing with yous, your family, or your abode personally? To start with, I'd like to know who my neighbors are. I'd like to know if I should take extra precautions if there is a house full of possible drug addicts, mentally ill, or criminals living across the street. If they didn't sit outside and smoke all 24-hour interval and night and throw their cigarette butts and trash everywhere I probably wouldn't even have noticed. Like I said, while I'm not thrilled if it is, I as well understand the demand for transition homes and experience my neighbors and I should be informed if it is. You are a very judgemental human being and I'yard being as nice as I possibly tin can considering this is a public forum. I will say this, how fucking dare you judge a mentally sick person and lump them with criminals and drug addicts? How dare yous? That is a comment from an uneducated person who knows zip nigh mental illness. People CHOOSE to do drugs or be criminals. Not 1 unmarried person CHOOSES to be mentally ill. I am the mother of THREE, Yeah I SAID Three grown children that suffer from some form of mental illness. Not one of them has so much as broken the police. They alive on their own lives and have care of themselves. Information technology certainly isn't a choice they fabricated, it is in fact the hand that God dealt them . I seriously hope they don't tell people of their illness because they will eventually meet a fucking judgemental bowwow like you!!!!!! Karma, baby karma I practise believe in it!!!!!! | |
myshelly VIPea Posts: 12,054 Jun 30, 2014 fourteen:44:17 GMT | Post by myshelly on Feb twenty, 2015 0:51:26 GMT In my neighborhood? I'g getting nowhere when trying to contact my county or the Sheriff section. Several months ago a house sold across the street. It'southward a small business firm, just over i,000 sq ft, but zoned and permitted to build a second firm in the back. Equally soon as information technology was purchased, construction begun on the dorsum house but information technology is however non complete. During construction a foreign group of people moved in. They don't appear to be a family because of the ages, ethnicities, and type of people they are. There also seems to exist fashion too many adults to be living in such a minor house. The people await very crude around the edges and sit exterior smoking all day and night. The house is slowly starting to look similar a dump with cigarette butts, trash, and soda cans in the planters and down the driveway. There are non any cars which is also strange. My neighbors and I are suspicious. I've spent today trying to detect out if it is a halfway house and if it's opperating legally. Honestly, I'd rather not have it in my neighborhood only I sympathise the need for information technology. I think that if it is legally run, we, as in the neighborhood, should have been notified that information technology opened. Does anyone accept any whatever knowledge of this? I'm sure laws vary by land and county merely I thought who meliorate to ask then y'all ladies Yous said you tried to contact the county...do you live in a urban center? I would start past reading metropolis codes. If you find any codes that the people at this business firm are violating I would write a letter to the metropolis lawmaking department, your city council representative, and the mayor'southward office citing your business organisation and the specific code it violates. Unless your neighborhood was already zoned to let a half way firm it is highly unlikely that one could open legally without public discover and hearings to modify zoning ordinances for your neighborhood. | |
back to *pea*ality Pearl Clutcher Not my circus, not my monkeys ~refugee pea #59 Posts: three,149 Jun 25, 2014 19:51:11 GMT | Mail past dorsum to *pea*ality on Feb twenty, 2015 i:05:00 GMT I served on the Planning Commission in my town. In the state I live in you have to zone for every use - yes, even that adult book shop. Again, where I live, a group living facility in a residential zone would require a conditional use approval. There are hearings open to the public. Residences located within a certain area of the property Receive written find, and the approval and any weather condition of the use are a matter of public record. I don't think the OP expressed herself well with regards to mental illness only I assume that if someone who suffers from mental illness, has been removed from their dwelling house because of violence and put in a group dwelling house in a residential neighborhood the residents have a correct to know. I would assume that would never happen and the facility would be more than secure but you never know. | |
Deleted Posts: 0 Apr 4, 2022 9:10:14 GMT | Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2015 i:16:25 GMT At that place are 2 in my neighbourhood. Both are very big houses and one is for recovering booze/drug addicts. The other I don't know. They are tranquillity, I haven't heard anything negative virtually either one of them. We alive in a actually nice neighbourhood and neither house stands out. The houses are well kept i.e. lawn maintenance is done, trees are pruned and everything looks normal. | |
momof3pits UnstopPeable Crazy Dog Mama Posts: 1,161 Jun 25, 2014 23:12:26 GMT | Post by momof3pits on Feb 20, 2015 1:nineteen:31 GMT Why exercise y'all demand to know? Are they messing with you lot, your family, or your home personally? I think she gave some really skillful reasons in her OP. I know if I were in her state of affairs I would want to know. There is cypher wrong with being observant and checking out what is going on. Nosotros are always told to "listen to our instincts". It'due south the smart thing to exercise if something doesn't look or feel right. Shrug, I don't agree. Her OP basically judged the people past the way they looked.. Strange, rough, etc. Sure, trash and smokes in the front yard would make me roll my eyes but unless and until I saw bodily concerning behavior I would mind my own beeswax and concern myself with my own family and life. I read her OP differently is all. | |
travelsoul Total Fellow member Posts: 432 Jun 26, 2014 12:26:38 GMT | Mail service by travelsoul on Feb 20, 2015 1:twenty:43 GMT Well Momof3Pitts, I remember it is you lot who is now being a judgemental bitch. I have lots of feel with people who have a mental illness. I am fully aware that at that place is a departure between mentally ill people and criminals. I have several family members with mental illness including a schizophrenic cousin and a bipolar dad and brother. At that place are several reasons I put mentally ill people in that list and ane of them wasn't meant to offend yous or anyone with mental illness. I actually was stalked and had to go a restraining society against a former friend who developed schizophrenia when she was in her early 20's. Her mom begged me to get the police involved because she was unable to get help for her adult daughter without me doing so. Additionally, at that place is a young lady who lives downward the street with schizophrenia. The first calendar week I lived in my business firm her mom came and introduced herself. She told me her daughter had some mental health issues and that if I ever noticed her daughter interim erratically that I should telephone call the police for her safety. Well ane day the young lady was wondering downward the street naked. Because my neighbors were aware of her condition they were able to understand what was going on and help her in a more than sensitive style. Trust me, I would like to know if there was a transitional home for mentally ill people in my neighborhood then that I could be more aware and understanding of off behavior, have a better idea of how I could aid if there was a dangerous situation, and overall merely be more observant. Information technology would never be considering I don't want them in my neighborhood. I also want to make sure the firm is operating legally, regardless of what type of people alive in that location, if that's the case. | |
epeanymous Drama Llama Posts: seven,148 Jun 28, 2014 0:57:09 GMT | Post by epeanymous on Feb 20, 2015 1:25:58 GMT FWiW, nosotros had a rehab blazon house in our neighborhood and I had no thought that was what it was. It is an expensive neighborhood but has a lot of multi family/condo type residences, and I simply thought it was one of those. Never saw annihilation unusual, never heard a peep out of annihilation, and I read the local scanner reports and there was never anything over at that place. I didn't find out what it was until they sold the property to a developer and moved. | |
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